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EDIT: 12/14/20 - Finally updated the parts list and added a new photo to match the build as of ~October. I've since taken out both 2080Ti's and moved them off to my other machines and upgraded to a 3090 Founder's Edition + Bitspower block as my main card and a cheap K4200 quadro as a multi-monitor card (to replace the outputs I used on the SLI setup before). Still waiting on my moddiy custom ampere cable to ditch the ugly adapter. Performance overall is about 10-20% less than my 2080 Tis in applications that actually used them both (which was rare), but single card performance is up dramatically. Additionally I've gone deep into Microsoft Flight Sim with a significant amount of new hardware - Honeycomb Alpha and Bravo yoke/throttle, Logitech rudder pedals, and an Elgato stream deck (for extra button functions)

Approximately two years ago I created the build here https://pcpartpicker.com/b/cKdXsY

It's been updated so many times from then it needed a clean new build page. From that original build nearly nothing but the drives remain - a real PC of Theseus. In the last month I've dumped a small fortune into a hard line water cooling loop and case upgrade that could handle it.

Intended to be both my work and play machine - lots of cores and memory for rendering, photo editing, and virtual machine labs plus lots of GPU power for gaming, VR, and Folding@Home in down time.

The biggest changes outside of the actual hardware components has been cooling. The Enermax Liqtech AIOs have horrendous longevity and because of that I've since gone for a 100% custom water cooled EK loop in this iteration. The water loop is documented in the build photos (at least for the steps I remembered to photograph, oops). For my first foray into hard line cooling it went without a hiccup. Under full folding@home torture at 23C ambient temps max out at 80C on the 3970x, and 43C to 45C on the two GPUs. The CPU isn't much changed from the enermax compared to previously, but the GPUs are easily 40C lower. Fluid temps are tied to fan speed and max out at 41C. In non-torture workloads the CPU struggles to pass 75C.

The eye-watering final price represents years of upgrades and expansions and is also heavily invested into VR, peripherals, sound system, monitors, etc.

The one final part I have in transit is the v1tech Sakura GPU backplate that will just be appended to the top GPU in SLI.

I plan to put in a day 1 order for the 3xxx top tier GPUs and a pair of waterblocks as soon as it's possible and the existing ones will roll down to my living room rig.

Benchmarks 3dmark timespy extreme https://www.3dmark.com/spy/12552698 Cinebench: TBA, need to upload

Part Reviews

CPU

Absolute best of a workstation HEDT processor. In the past decade I've gone from Sandy Bridge - E 3930k (6 core 12 thread), Threadripper 1950x (16 core 32 thread), and now the 3970x (32 core 64 thread). This thing is strong enough to render 4k video or run virtual machines and folding@home while playing a game at the same time. The cost is incredibly high but it brings along tons of PCI-E lanes and lots of other goodies with the chipset.

Motherboard

Expensive board for what it is and a bit of a rub to be needed after the x399 chipset was killed so soon. It has lots of headers you wouldn't think you'd need, but end up coming in handy once you go watercooled or plan to do liquid nitrogen. That said some of the water cooling headers are proprietary and you can't find hardware to use them. Excellent overclocker with Ryzen Master and the 3970x

Memory

It's memory. It's not Samsung B-die, but it (finally) runs at rated speeds even in a quad channel board with 4 kits. I say finally because this didn't work on the older 1950x and x399 setup, but is flawless on TRX40. The RGB looks great but the hitch is that the software has literally never worked - instead I've had to rely on the Asus software.

Storage

Shucked from WD Easystore enclosures, these are cheap steam drive options when even 6TB of SSD space isn't enough. Two of these bad boys hidden on vertical mounts out of sight on the machine and you have years of storage space. These have been running without issue for several years now in this machine and some have been on 24/7 in my home server for easily 4-5 years without failure.

Case

Probably the best compromise case for water cooling loop. As a long time fractal fan and especially of the define series, this is like a deluxe upsized Define R6. Not officially supported it managed to just barely squeeze in dual 420x45mm rads, a massive 300mm res/pump combo, and the rest of my components (SLI + eATX motherboard) without compromising on cable management. Copied from a reddit post I made, here are my lists of pros/cons

Pros

  • Minimalist look, coming from the Define R6 I wanted to keep that. This was really #1 along with noise dampening
  • Actually fits E-ATX boards with cable management
  • Some consideration given to water cooling - it has a fill port spot and the plastic shroud cover piece has holes for a pump mount
  • Sound dampening materials do a pretty decent job
  • Included fan hub is not bad
  • New from the define r6, the tempered glass is edge to edge
  • Relatively easy to work in due to the size
  • Convertible between silence and air flow with the top panel (though for us in watercooling - there's only one way that's ever going to be configured)
  • Filters are all removable from front or top

Cons

  • Cable management in the back is very limited. My 24 pin cable is crammed tight between the mobo tray and back of the case.
  • Hard drive trays can't be removed from the back, you need to pull them out from the basement area at the front so if you have to unmount your pump and rads if you needed to yoink one.
  • Similar to above, but worse. If you skip the hdd cage for space reasons and mount two hdd's directly to the back of the tray vertically you can ONLY mount them through the front which requires removing a plastic panel + the pump and front rad. Good luck replacing a hard drive later
  • PSU area has a plastic shroud piece to hold cables from pressing against the back panel. It makes the already tight space worse and the clips aren't amazing at holding it in without lots of organizing
  • Back panel is magnetically mounted, no screws. So coupled with the already limited clearance now you have a back panel that pops off if you don't spend time getting everything pushed tight.
  • Front intake is limited with door closed (but you know that going in with this case)
  • Fan controller PWM cable is laughably short. I had some extensions laying around, but it wouldn't have reached any header on my mobo without one other than maybe CPU.
  • If you're mounting LED strips there's not really enough space on the front left edge of the glass side and you can't put one on the bottom edge at all without the strip showing.
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Comments

LordSample
  • 4 years 9 months ago

I mean it looks cool and all, but I highly doubt it could run solitaire ;(

k_a_l_e
  • 4 years 9 months ago

PC was beautifully built, congrats man!

llamafacelukas
  • 4 years 9 months ago

This is what a down payment on a house looks like in PC form. Nice work!

epsilon748
  • 4 years 9 months ago

I wish! Where I live a house down payment is closer to 10x this amount. This might be equivalent to a down payment on a parking spot. Thanks for looking!

neological79
  • 4 years 9 months ago

In Washington DC this wouldn't even be a condo downpayment.

Meanwhile 60 miles away in Baltimore you could get 4 city blocks on the west side for this.

Blackthorn2753@gmail.com
  • 4 years 9 months ago

Actually in the United States everywhere outside of New York and la and Miami this would be more than sufficient to be a downpayment on a house! in a lot of places you wouldn't even need foreclosure insurance because this would be 20% of a small home!

LeBuilder45
  • 4 years 9 months ago

I was a bit confused why everybody said overkill but then i saw: 5 monitors, 2 rtx 2080 ti, tr 3970x, THREE vr headsets, a racing wheel, 2 headphones... Oh and the price? The price is just 20 000$. I agree now, TRULY overkill. I like that you got windows for free tho.

epsilon748
  • 4 years 9 months ago

Indeed, I've been into sims for years and with the jump to VR I've been an early adopter of a bunch of headsets. I've got 3 more that aren't even included because they don't see regular use like the vives and index. The headphones are also dual purpose - one headset for games and calls and thr other for pure music. It all had rational decisions when I bought it lol

AwesomePCBuild
  • 4 years 9 months ago

Feature incoming!

GTS81
  • 4 years 9 months ago

Overkill... or don't do it at all. LOL.

Gabko99
  • 3 years 5 months ago

Damn, I bet you could open 2 tabs on chrome with that set up

Blackthorn2753@gmail.com
  • 4 years 9 months ago

Such over killing! Godlike parts. Just outstanding, what sort of work do you do that you need such horsepower especially CPU horsepower!?!?!

Mort.h
  • 4 years 7 months ago

ay bruh you gmail in ur username

xmikexoo
  • 4 years 9 months ago

I never knew one could overkill so hard lol

maddog62
  • 4 years 9 months ago

One Asesome 3970x TR build! Congratulations!

The description, part reviews and photos are very nice!

I can't wait to see this after the next set of upgrades.

Thumbs up from me, wishing I had 20! Enjoy!

neological79
  • 4 years 9 months ago

Ok, I thought 20k was insane before...

...:adds up price of audio peripherals in my rack:...

... Carry on sir!

Nice build. G.skill's software is poop but you cannot argue with the beauty of trident z.

Post benchmarks. I'm rooting for you.

epsilon748
  • 4 years 9 months ago

Oh yeah, doh I forgot to post the 3dmark and cinebench scores. It's not top-of-leaderboard in 3dmark since the CPU doesn't matter as much, but it's pretty respectable. Cinebench with an overclock is pretty jaw dropping though

neological79
  • 4 years 9 months ago

I dunno with 2 2808tis I think you're being modest there about 3dmark. How much overclocking have you done with those - it makes a huge difference there.

I always try to juice my 3dmark score to top of gpu/CPU combo. It's a fun game.

Enigmaafder
  • 4 years 8 months ago

The threadripper 3970X, why would you go with 3200mhz? i mean that isn't that fast considering the cpu ur using

epsilon748
  • 4 years 8 months ago

Stability. It's the highest officially supported speed for the TR 3XXX parts. Good luck getting OC parts to run. Extra officially 8 slots of 16GB are only rated to 2667, so I'm already pushing it at this capacity. It saturates the memory controller already. On my 1950x with x399 I couldn't even get it stable at 3200.

CameronJED
  • 4 years 8 months ago

Annnnnnnnnd I feel inferior

nathanalmighty
  • 4 years 8 months ago

tbh, this is the most beautiful water cooled build i've ever seen

tariklee
  • 4 years 7 months ago

much regret yet with the 2080's?

epsilon748
  • 4 years 7 months ago

Nope, I've been playing 4k games for 2 years since launch. Upgrading to NVLink 3090s as soon as they're up for sale.

Mort.h
  • 4 years 7 months ago

nah save that bread, if u wanna upgrade get the 3080 bc the next gen gpu nivida releases they gonna do all the 3090 buyers dirty again, if i was you, i would stay safe crop that 3080, so you got that left over bread yk?

jayonpcpp
  • 4 years 3 months ago

Man you don't get it, his bread loaf is bigger than the universe.

Mort.h
  • 4 years 7 months ago

that cool and all, but can it run roblox ??????

Mort.h
  • 4 years 7 months ago

House catches on fire

KonnerW
  • 4 years 6 months ago

yo u should of went with the 3990x that cpu cant even run cod smoothly D:

Lemons274
  • 4 years 6 months ago

Do you think this is a bit overkill for minesweeper? I'm going for a expensive vibe for my system so..

McFridgeGuy
  • 4 years 5 months ago

How does the 3970x run for VR?

epsilon748
  • 4 years 5 months ago

It works great with the overclock but I still have to put ryzen master into game mode first or it's a bit stuttery.

McFridgeGuy
  • 4 years 5 months ago

Good to know. So disabling cores through Ryzen master makes VR FPS good? I'm on the fence between a 3970x and 5990x. I will be doing 3D modeling and rendering on my machine, with the hopes of using the same machine for the occasional game in the evening.

Ploosh_the_pc_builder
  • 4 years 2 months ago

im wondering how can it run fortnite

jmadueno
  • 4 years 2 months ago

Very nice build! how are your VRAM temperatures with that bitspower block? I'm looking to custom loop my 3090FE to solve the high temperatures that are seen on the backplate at high workloads due to the inadequate cooling for the VRAM on that side. thanks!

Juanisntreal
  • 4 years ago

Your build got me like wtf you have a monster of a pc, but you monitor setup is just ghetto af. Still props for liquid cooling your system

TimothyWasTaken
  • 3 years 11 months ago

F E A T U R E +1

Abula
  • 3 years 10 months ago

Nice build, any chance you can tell me what Pump/Res combo did you use?

Animeismymother
  • 3 years 8 months ago

Nice

First off, great build, that rig is what my dreams are made of. Altho its a great setup, don't you think 20k is a little too much? Finally, upgrade your GPUs, they are super outdated.

PS. How long did it take you to build this whole setup? --Kudos

Lucas0529
  • 2 months ago

this is cool and all, but can it run the google chrome dinosaur game?

fkilibarda
  • 3 years 6 months ago

gay

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neological79
  • 4 years 9 months ago

I'm a big mechanical keyboard weirdo who owns a varmilo and a ducky and I have the cheaper full board version of that keyboard (g512 se) with gx blues and i actually use it the most. Weird.

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neological79
  • 4 years 9 months ago

Noice!

White Ducky One 2 SF Year of the Rat Cherry Red MX with .2 O-rings. Stupid quiet! And a whole sentence!

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MrWizard12
  • 4 years 6 months ago

my k&m combo r worth 14 us

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TimothyWasTaken
  • 3 years 11 months ago

everywhere i go.... i see his face